Zaklampen info's (2WO) Fake - orginal...ect

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Thankx :)
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Re: Zaklampen info's (2WO) Fake - orginal...ect

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Hi,
I've managed to get 5 types of Zeiler 4350 flaslights int my collection.
On some of them there are no type numbers.Inside of the red lamp there are no signs like usually there is only nr.5.in it.
I would like to show you them.

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@Fero,

let's see the inside with a sharp picture from the red bakelite lamp without stamp.
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custom schreef:@Fero,

let's see the inside with a sharp picture from the red bakelite lamp without stamp.
@Custom,

there the picture his inside
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Hi,
This is a new flashlight in my collection. :P
Black Daimon Telko-Trio Focus flashlight.
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Fero nice beautiful quality flashlights :)
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Schijnwerper schreef:Fero nice beautiful quality flashlights :)
Thanks Schijnwerper!
We your opinion red Zeiler?
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well in my opinion I saw this types before on the Internet.
Compleet in cardboard box, you have this type also in green bakelit.
Red and braun black, that bakelite material is also looks like different?
As the normal types as usually.
Construction of this flashlights is also different from the 4350 DRP as we all know.
On the cardboard box is the type number 4350 indeed mentoined present.(But not the DRP code marks)
But not and the flashlight it self, and are no numbers percent and bakelit marks codes in the bakelit flaslights, as the normal types 3450 DRP we all know.
Construction of this flaslights is also different from the 4350 DRP as normally.
So well i think that this type maybe produce after WW2? 1947 a 1954.
But i have no evidence found so far.
So is difficult to say on this moment.
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Hi,
I guess that this flashlight is Danish's army of WWI, prodused by Haerens Tojhus 1910-1923 (Danish). Is it? (am I right)?
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Hi Schijnwerper,
Thank you for your response.If I check the previous lights,there were produced flashlights with the mark D.R.P,and wihtout any mark at the same time.When I look at the form of this Zeiler,that tain soulution shows exactly the former demanding and high standard example.For instance there is that Siemens civilians bakelit flashlight from the 30's. In that previously shown small bar lamp there was only the 4646 nomination,nothing else,but at the same time the 3502 appeared which was supplied with abundant signals /serial number,HRS/), but the D.R.P. wasn't on it either. :?
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Fero you right, you have different models from this lamp with or without DRP or 4350 Logo marks. But i don't know when it was produced so far, i douwd en confused me a little :roll: I do not know why do they do that, and when it was produced.
it's interesting :)
I show you another variant that i found on the internet.
With a different construction of the lamp, in green bakelite.
No DRP type 4350 on the lamp it self, and no HRS or bakelit marks on it.

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And found a Nice picture Normandy 1944
Daimon Telko.

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Thanks Schijnwerper! _/-\o_

Hi Dima,
Information your lamp:
http://m55q.blogspot.hu/2012/12/elektri ... m1915.html
The battery Hellesens:
http://virk-info.dk/Virk-H/Hellesen/Hellesen.htm
The number of my lamps:

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Thank you, Fero.
Your collection is interesting.
There is abbreviation "HT" on the last photo, my flashlight is marked with abbreviation "HV". Does anybody know what these abbreviations ("HT" and "HV") mean?
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Dima schreef:Thank you, Fero.
Your collection is interesting.
There is abbreviation "HT" on the last photo, my flashlight is marked with abbreviation "HV". Does anybody know what these abbreviations ("HT" and "HV") mean?
Hi Dima,
Danish guard = Vagt, HT= Hærens Tøjhus :?
I do not know, but perhaps a Hærens Vagt HV? :?:

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Hello,
Any idea what's the provenience of this flashlight and when was it manufactured? I can't find any info...
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