RAL code Duitse helm

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RAL code Duitse helm

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Ik weet dat hier al een topic over is, maar ik kan um niet vinden, Kan iemand me vertellen welke RAL kleur de Duitse helm had? het gaat om een M40 helm.
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niemand?
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Hang me er niet aan op maar ik dacht 6006
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bedankt, heb ik in ieder geval iets :wink: En maak je geen zorgen, mijn bomen zijn niet hoog genoeg :lol:
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ral 6006 is idd de ral van olivgrün welke in WO2 de kleur was van duitse manschappenuitrusting in europa
wie niet waagt wie niet wint wie niks vindt
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6006 vind ik nergens terug in deze lijst, ik kan overigens wel wat experimentjes doen op me werk if possible.

afijn:

WORLD WAR II AXIS





GERMANY



INFANTRY 1939-42

PART/ITEM -- COLOR

Tunic, cap, helmet, cylindrical gas mask carrier -- OG Green (1164)
Trousers, overcoat, grenade body -- Faded Olive Drab (2051)
Collar, epaulets (both tunic and overcoat) -- Medium Green (1713)
Epaulet trim (Infantry) -- White
Boots, ammo pouches, holster, belt, straps, shovel, binoculars -- Black
Officer belt and straps -- Leather (1736)
Haversack, mess tin, canteen cup, shovel handle -- SAC Bomber Tan (1792)
Canteen -- Dark Tan (1742), Black strap
Shelter half roll -- CAMOUFLAGE pattern of Medium Green (1713) and Field Drab (1702) segments over Green (2029) base.
Metal parts of weapons, bayonet -- Gunmetal (1795)
Hair, pack, wooden parts of rifle -- Brown, Italian dark (2111)
Blanket roll - Flat Gull Gray (1730)
Folded gas cape -- Armor Sand (1704)
MG belt -- Brass
MG ammo boxes, mine detector, mortars and A/T weapons -- Engine Gray (2034)
Hands, face -- Flesh
Base -- Green (2029)

NOTES: For parades, at the the beginning of the war, the Germans issued a WW I style matching pack, with blanket rolled on three sides, but most troops carried only their mess kit, shelter quarter roll and haversack in combat. Motorcycle riders received a full length Flat Gull Gray (1730) double-breasted coat as an overgarment, which fastened around their legs.

Suggested Reference -- Osprey Men At Arms series #311, The German Army 1939-45 (1) Blitzkrieg


INFANTRY and PANZER GRENADIERS 1942-45

PART/ITEM -- COLOR

Tunic, trousers, overcoat, helmet -- Faded Olive Drab (2051)
Epaulet trim, Infantry -- White (Panzer-Grenadiers -- Light Green)
Boots, ammo pouches, holster, belt, straps, binoculars -- Black
Officer belt and straps -- Leather (1736) (Black also possible.)
Haversack, mess tin, canteen cup -- SAC Bomber Tan (1792)
Canteen -- Dark Tan (1742), Black strap
Shelter half roll -- CAMOUFLAGE pattern of Medium Green (1713) and Field Drab (1702) segments over Green (2029) base.
Cylindrical gas mask carrier, shovel -- OG Green (1164)
Metal parts of weapons, bayonet -- Gunmetal (1795)
Hair, pack, wooden parts of rifle -- Brown, Italian dark (2111)
MG belt -- Brass
MG ammunition boxes, mine detector, mortars and A/T weapons -- Armor Sand (1704)
Grenade and shovel handles -- Wood (1735)
Hands, face -- Flesh
Base -- Green (2029)

NOTES: In early 1942, the Germans went to a plainer, cheaper, "war economy" tunic. In late 1943 they began to issue Afrika Korps styled caps, and baggy trousers in European colors. It was possible to see any of these in a mix with prewar items until the last day of the war.

Suggested Reference -- Osprey Men At Arms series #326, The German Army 1939-45 (3) Eastern Front 1943-45

Suggested Figures: Deutsche Infanterie/German Infantry, Deutsche Panzergrenadiere/German Armored Infantry, and Deutsches Afrikakorps/German Africa Corps WW II


LATE WAR GERMAN ARMY (1944-45)

PART/ITEM -- COLOR

Smock, trousers, "poncho" (shelter half ) -- CAMOUFLAGE pattern of Medium Green
(1713) and Field Drab (1702) segments over Green (2029) base
Tunic, trousers, overcoat, helmet -- Faded Olive Drab (2051)
Boots, ammo pouches, holster, belt, straps, binoculars -- Black
Pack, MP-44 SMG pouches -- Sand (1706)
Officer belt and straps -- Leather (1736) (Black also possible.)
Haversack, mess tin, canteen cup -- SAC Bomber Tan (1792)
Canteen -- Dark Tan (1742), Black strap
Cylindrical gas mask carrier, shovel -- OG Green (1164)
Metal parts of weapons, bayonet, wire cutters -- Gunmetal (1795)
Hair, pack, wooden parts of rifle -- Brown, Italian dark (2111)
Grenade, shovel, and pick handles, oar -- Wood (1735)
MG belt -- Brass
Goliath demolition vehicle, A/T weapons, mortars, mines, mine detector, MG ammunition boxes -- Armor Sand (1704)
Pick -- Steel
Inflatable Boat -- Medium Green (1713)
Hands, face -- Flesh
Base -- Green (2029)

NOTES: Only some elite German Army units received camouflage uniforms late war. An alternative late-war Camouflage pattern was Dark Tan (1742) and Green (2029) segments over an Armor Sand (1704) base. This garment reversed to White. (This alternative pattern did NOT apply to "ponchos".) Late in the war, the Germans also issued a British Battledress-style uniform, complete with gaiters, but these were not very common. Late war A/T weapons included "bazookas" and single shot Panzerfaust rocket launchers.

Suggested Reference: Osprey Men At Arms series #336, The German Army 1939-45 (5) Western front 1943-45

Suggested Figures: Deutsche Infanterie/German Infantry, Deutsche Pioniere/German Engineers, Deutsches Afrikakorps/German Africa Corps WW II


GERMAN TANK CREWS

PART/ITEM -- COLOR

Tunic, trousers, headgear -- Aircraft Int. Black (2040)
Boots, holster, belt, binoculars -- Black
Goggle lenses -- Silver
Hair -- Brown, Italian dark (2111)
Pistol, submachine gun -- Gunmetal (1795)
Epaulet trim and collar tab -- Army and SS: Pink, Luftwaffe: White
Hands, face -- Flesh
Base -- Green (2029)

NOTES: SS tank crews often wore Camouflage uniforms or just a Camouflage smock over black trousers. Army, SS and Luftwaffe crews of self-propelled artillery wore an identical uniform to tank troops, but in Dark Gull Gray (1740).


AFRIKA KORPS

PART/ITEM -- COLOR

Uniform, helmet (See NOTES) -- Sand (1706)
Overcoat -- Field Drab (1702)
Ammo pouches, holster, binoculars -- Black
Belt, straps, shovel -- Flat Gull Gray (1730)
Socks, haversack, mess tin, canteen cup -- SAC Bomber Tan (1792)
Shelter half roll -- CAMOUFLAGE pattern of Medium Green (1713) and Field Drab (1702) segments over Green (2029) base.
Boots (See NOTES) -- Armor Sand (1704) top/Dark Tan (1742) bottom or Black.
Canteen -- Dark Tan (1742), Black strap
Front SMG pouch -- Sand (1706)
Metal parts of weapons, bayonet -- Gunmetal (1795)
Hair, wooden parts of rifle -- Brown, Italian dark (2111)
MG belt -- Brass
MG ammo boxes, cylindrical gas mask carrier, mines, mine detector, mortars and A/T weapons -- Armor Sand (1704)
Grenade body -- Faded Olive Drab (2051)
Grenade and shovel handles -- Wood (1735)
Hands, face, legs -- Flesh
Base -- Dark tan (1742)

NOTES: This uniform was a Light Olive [SAC Bomber Tan (1792)] when issued, but between sun, and the wearers deliberate efforts to bleach them out, they ended up tan. These uniforms were later issued in Tunisia and Sicily. European uniform items were also worn in North Africa. Soldiers were originally issued combination leather and canvas boots, one pair each, of ankle boots and full calf length. Black ankle marching boots were also commonly worn. Painting of helmets, etc, was done haphazardly at the unit level.

Suggested Reference -- Osprey Men At Arms series #316 The German Army 1939-45 (2) North African & Balkans

Suggested figures: Deutsches Afrikakorps/German Africa Corps WW II


GERMAN HORSE ARTILLERY

PART/ITEM -- COLOR

Tunic, cap, helmet etc. - see appropriate period under Infantry
Epaulet trim (Artillery) -- Flat Red (1150)
Trousers -- Faded Olive Drab (2051)
Crotch (riders) -- Military Brown (1701)
Shirt (no Tunic) -- Flat Battle Gray (1163)
Suspenders (no Tunic) -- Gray, Italian blue (2113)
Belt, boots, straps, holster -- Black
Officer's belt and straps -- Leather (1736)
Canteen -- Dark Tan (1742), Black strap
Cylindrical gas mask carrier, shovel -- OG Green (1164)
Metal parts of weapons, bayonet -- Gunmetal (1795)
Hair, wooden parts of rifle -- Brown, Italian dark (2111)
Hands, face --Flesh
Base -- Green (2029)

HORSE CAISSON

PART/ITEM -- COLOR

Horse -- whatever
Blanket -- Flat Battle Gray (1163)
Saddle, straps - Leather (1736)
Cannon, caisson -- Engine Gray (2034)
Wheel edges -- Steel
Boxes -- Wood (1735)
Shells -- Brass

NOTES: Suggested Reference: Box art.
Suggested Figures: Deutsche Artillerie/German Artillery


GERMAN WAFFEN-SS 1942-45

PART/ITEM -- COLOR

Smock & helmet cover -- CAMOUFLAGE (See NOTES)
Trousers, helmet, Officer Tunic & hat -- Faded Olive Drab (2051)
Collar, epaulets -- Aircraft Int. Black (2040)
Epaulet trim, collar patch details --White
Officer belt and straps -- Leather (1736)
Boots, ammo pouches, holster, belt, straps, binoculars -- Black
Canteen -- Dark Tan (1742), Black strap
Haversack, mess tin, canteen cup -- SAC Bomber Tan (1792)
Cylindrical gas mask carrier, shovel -- OG Green (1164)
Grenade handle,shovel handle --Wood (1735)
Hair, wooden parts of rifle -- Brown, Italian dark (2111)
Metal parts of weapons, bayonet -- Gunmetal (1795)
MG belt -- Brass
MG ammunition boxes, mine detector, mortars and A/T weapons -- Armor Sand (1704)
Hands, face -- Flesh
Base -- Green (2029)

NOTES: CAMOUFLAGE: Spring/Summer -- Base Color: Pale Green (1716) and Flat Tan (1167), with spots of European Gray (1788)
Autumn -- Base Color: Flat Tan (1167) and Sand (1706), with spots of Field Drab (1702)

Suggested Reference -- Osprey Men At Arms series #34, The Waffen SS

Suggested Figures: Deutsche Infanterie/German Infantry and Deutsche Panzergrenadiere/German Armored Infantry


LUFTWAFFE PARATROOPS (1939-41)

PART/ITEM -- COLOR

Smock -- Green (2029)
Helmet, grenade body -- European Gray (1788)
Cap, trousers, rifle bandoleer, gas mask carrier -- Faded Olive Drab (2051)
Boots, gauntlets, belt, straps, canteen top, canteen strap, binoculars -- Black
Canteen -- Dark Tan (1742), black strap
Hair, wooden parts of rifle -- Brown, Italian dark (2111)
Metal parts of weapons, bayonet -- Gunmetal (1795)
MG belt -- Brass
Supply container -- Flat Gull Gray (1730) (See NOTES)
Parachute harness -- White
Grenade handle -- Wood (1735)
Hands, face -- Flesh
Base -- Green (2029)

NOTES: In the early part of the war, German paratroops jumped unarmed except for pistols. The airdrop containers held their weapons, ammunition, medical and other supplies, and were spray-painted with a colored band to indicate the contents. (Red, blue, yellow, black, green, with the parachutes in the same colors. The coding changed for each mission.) Riflemen carried their ammunition in a unique cloth bandoleer they wore over their necks. Paratroops also wore a cloth gas mask carrier, rather than the usual cylindrical can type. Pistols were carried in a special pocket of the jump smock.

Suggested Reference -- Osprey Men At Arms series #139. German Airborne Troops 1939-45 and box art.


LUFFWAFFE PARATROOPS "GREEN DEVILS" (1942-45)

PART/ITEM -- COLOR

Smock, helmet cover -- CAMOUFLAGE pattern of Medium Green (1713) and Field
Drab (1702) segments over Green (2029) base.
Cap, trousers, rifle bandoleer, gas mask carrier -- Faded Olive Drab (2051)
Boots, ammo pouches, holster, belt, straps, binoculars -- Black
Shovel, grenade body -- European Gray (1788)
SMG pouches, anti-tank grenade, bazooka -- Armor Sand (1704)
Metal parts of weapons, bayonet -- Gunmetal (1795)
Hair, pack, wooden parts of rifle -- Brown, Italian dark (2111)
MG belt -- Brass
Grenade and shovel handles -- (Wood 1735)
Supply container -- Flat Gull Gray (1730)
Hands, face -- Flesh
Base -- Green (2029)

NOTES: A late war (1944-45) version of the Camouflage Pattern used Dark Tan (1742) and Green (2029) segments over an Armor Sand (1704) base.

Suggested Reference -- Osprey Men At Arms series #139. German Airborne Troops 1939-45 and box art.
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nog even wat gevonden,
hier staan wel een hoop kleuren op met welke codes waar voor waren.

http://miniatures.de/html/ger/colour-ral-farben.html
wie niet waagt wie niet wint wie niks vindt
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k98k schreef:ral 6006 is idd de ral van olivgrün welke in WO2 de kleur was van duitse manschappenuitrusting in europa
6006 Graugrün staat er toch in de RAL waaier op mijn werk.
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Polte schreef:
k98k schreef:ral 6006 is idd de ral van olivgrün welke in WO2 de kleur was van duitse manschappenuitrusting in europa
6006 Graugrün staat er toch in de RAL waaier op mijn werk.
ja bij mijn werk staat in de ral waaier olivegrün, die van mijn is van Stondox autolakken, op de site trouwens http://miniatures.de/html/ger/colour-ral-farben.html :

6006 Feldgrau, Nr. 3

dat zijn dan al 3 verschillende namen... vreemd
wie niet waagt wie niet wint wie niks vindt
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Inderdaad.... ik heb een gewone RAL waaier voor muur/lakverf. Dacht dat RAL gewoon universeel was.
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