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Re: Zaklampen info's (2WO) Fake - orginal...ect

Geplaatst: 17 dec 2014, 23:18
door custom
Fero schreef:Hi,
Merry Christmas! :wink:
Fero, also a Merry Christmas and a good collect year for 2015.

Re: Zaklampen info's (2WO) Fake - orginal...ect

Geplaatst: 19 dec 2014, 00:50
door asjemenou
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De ZW59 Mehrzweckleuchte is zoals de naam al zegt een multi functionele lamp. Zo kan de ZW59 ook dienen als voeding voor de verlichting van de gradenverdeling in het rechter oculair van de NVA DF 7x40 verrekijker.

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De ZW59 is een acculamp welke in de DDR werd gefabriceerd. Zo'n ZW59 acculamp is dan ook ouder dan 25 jaar. Dit betekent dat in de meeste gevallen de accu door ouderdom is uitgeput. Opladen heeft dan ook geen zin. Uit ervaring weet ik dat oude DDR accu's zelfs kunnen ontploffen! Vervelend, zeker als je weet dat deze oude DDR accu's vol met zware metalen zitten.
Wie een beetje handig is kan de DDR accu (voeding) van de lamp vervangen door een nieuwere variant. Al met al blijft deze lamp, ook al werkt hij in de meeste gevallen dan niet meer een leuk verzamelobject voor DDR/NVA verzamelaars.

Re: Zaklampen info's (2WO) Fake - orginal...ect

Geplaatst: 20 dec 2014, 20:10
door Dima
advertising from Poland 1930th
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Re: Zaklampen info's (2WO) Fake - orginal...ect

Geplaatst: 21 dec 2014, 11:34
door custom
Dima .. thats correctly Daimon had at that time different factories in Poland and other countries on the world.

bijgaand nog een zeldzaam Daimon model Telko Focus Nr 2211 gemaakt in 1927.Ik zag op ''WAF'' dat men
een discussie voerde over de Drei Blitz op de Daimon lampen ,dat deze kunnen afwijken bv deze Blitz met
sterretje in het midden etc kon van na de oorlog zijn. niks is minder waar.Bedenk wel dat Daimon lampen over de gehele
wereld gemaakt werden Daimon had immers vele vestingen, stempels uit deze verschillende fabrieken waren nooit 100% gelijk aan elkaar
het stempelmakers vak was toen ook al handwerk. :yes: .


Ik heb de originele tekeningen van dit Drei Blitz logo dat deze al in 1926 gebruikt werd op de Daimon lampen. Maar de verwarring is ontstaan doordat
het Drei Blitz logo tot begin jaren 50 nog gebruikt werd op civiele Daimon lampen voordat de Helle Freude periode aanbrak 1958 en dit logo voorgoed verdwenen was.

let op! de bijzondere morse schakelaar op deze lamp.

Re: Zaklampen info's (2WO) Fake - orginal...ect

Geplaatst: 22 dec 2014, 23:35
door nexo
Dima schreef:advertising from Poland 1930th
Daimon had a batteries factory in Starogard Gdański (north of Poland), however this advertising is not from Poland. We do not use the Cirillic alphabet. This ad is prabobly from the USSR.

Old Daimon ads are quite popular in Poland but they don't look like this, they are written in Polish. :)

Re: Zaklampen info's (2WO) Fake - orginal...ect

Geplaatst: 23 dec 2014, 13:04
door Dima
nexo schreef:
Dima schreef:advertising from Poland 1930th
Daimon had a batteries factory in Starogard Gdański (north of Poland), however this advertising is not from Poland. We do not use the Cirillic alphabet. This ad is prabobly from the USSR.

Old Daimon ads are quite popular in Poland but they don't look like this, they are written in Polish. :)

This ads had been written in Ukrainian language, which also uses Cyrillic alphabet . Till 1939 part of Ukraine (so-called West Ukraine) had belonged to Poland
See also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Ukraine

Re: Zaklampen info's (2WO) Fake - orginal...ect

Geplaatst: 23 dec 2014, 17:19
door custom
Dima Nice home work :wink:

Re: Zaklampen info's (2WO) Fake - orginal...ect

Geplaatst: 23 dec 2014, 18:19
door Dima
:cheer: :cheer: :cheer: :cheer: :cheer:

Re: Zaklampen info's (2WO) Fake - orginal...ect

Geplaatst: 23 dec 2014, 19:48
door Dima
Pretty unusual multifunction flashlight :)
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Re: Zaklampen info's (2WO) Fake - orginal...ect

Geplaatst: 23 dec 2014, 23:40
door nexo
Dima schreef:
nexo schreef:
Dima schreef:advertising from Poland 1930th
Daimon had a batteries factory in Starogard Gdański (north of Poland), however this advertising is not from Poland. We do not use the Cirillic alphabet. This ad is prabobly from the USSR.

Old Daimon ads are quite popular in Poland but they don't look like this, they are written in Polish. :)

This ads had been written in Ukrainian language, which also uses Cyrillic alphabet . Till 1939 part of Ukraine (so-called West Ukraine) had belonged to Poland
See also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Ukraine
Yes, but at those times it was just an ordinary territory of Poland with Polish as the official language. Eastern borderlands (Galicja) were inhabited by the strong Polish majority. Ukrainian has never been used as the official or even conversational language in Poland. Probably it would not be reasonable and politically correct to publish ad in Ukrainian. In my opinion this ad may come from the soviet part od Ukraine.

Re: Zaklampen info's (2WO) Fake - orginal...ect

Geplaatst: 24 dec 2014, 10:49
door custom
to keep it simple it's a Daimon export flyer :yes:

Re: Zaklampen info's (2WO) Fake - orginal...ect

Geplaatst: 24 dec 2014, 15:31
door Dima
I got this ads from Lvov (so-called as Lviv/ Lwów/ Lemberg) I have never met any ads and/or mentions about Daimon in Russian

citation (about Lviv):

"After the revolution of 1848, the language of instruction at the University shifted from German to include Ukrainian and Polish. Around that time, a certain sociolect developed in the city known as the Lwów dialect. Considered to be a type of Polish dialect, it draws its roots from numerous other languages besides Polish.

Interbellum period
While about two-thirds of the city's inhabitants were Poles, some of who spoke the characteristic Lwów dialect, the eastern part of the Lwów Voivodeship had a relative Ukrainian majority in most of its rural areas. " :)
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Re: Zaklampen info's (2WO) Fake - orginal...ect

Geplaatst: 24 dec 2014, 19:05
door Dima
"Daimon in black"
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:) :)

Re: Zaklampen info's (2WO) Fake - orginal...ect

Geplaatst: 24 dec 2014, 23:13
door nexo
Dima schreef:I got this ads from Lvov (so-called as Lviv/ Lwów/ Lemberg) I have never met any ads and/or mentions about Daimon in Russian

citation (about Lviv):

"After the revolution of 1848, the language of instruction at the University shifted from German to include Ukrainian and Polish. Around that time, a certain sociolect developed in the city known as the Lwów dialect. Considered to be a type of Polish dialect, it draws its roots from numerous other languages besides Polish.

Interbellum period
While about two-thirds of the city's inhabitants were Poles, some of who spoke the characteristic Lwów dialect, the eastern part of the Lwów Voivodeship had a relative Ukrainian majority in most of its rural areas. " :)
Lwów dialect is quite famous, but it based on Polish mainly and was written in Latin alphabet. Maybe I'm wrong about this ad, but I really never meet "polish" ad written Ukrainian. Official use of Ukrainian language on Polish lands was not politically correct, and company publishing such ads would take a significant risk. Polish was the only official language.

Few samples from different regions of old polish borderlands - just ordinary places with ads, signboards, etc:

Lwów
http://www.audiovis.nac.gov.pl/obraz/92 ... 1f89a3518/

Łuck
http://www.audiovis.nac.gov.pl/obraz/17 ... 2473cf5d0/

Kowel
http://www.audiovis.nac.gov.pl/obraz/86 ... aef334f5b/
http://www.audiovis.nac.gov.pl/obraz/20 ... aef334f5b/

Tarnopol
http://www.audiovis.nac.gov.pl/obraz/29 ... d66318476/
http://www.audiovis.nac.gov.pl/obraz/83 ... d66318476/
http://www.audiovis.nac.gov.pl/obraz/14 ... d66318476/

Kołomyja
http://www.audiovis.nac.gov.pl/obraz/17 ... 7772b7c38/

Re: Zaklampen info's (2WO) Fake - orginal...ect

Geplaatst: 25 dec 2014, 00:38
door nexo
In my new theory this ads may come from the period od Reichskommissariat Ukraine.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichsko ... at_Ukraine
Dima schreef:Afbeelding
That could be 1 reichsmark also.
Dima schreef:Afbeelding
This may confirm the theory, Ukrainian culture was not especialy promoted on Polish borderlands.